28 thoughts on “B&P poll: Who are you going to vote for?”
where’s Ron Paul??? 😉
“Get your own poll…” That’s dirty.
Ron Paul is up there, it’s labeled “I won’t vote” =P
I’m voting for myself.
I guess the Obama fans are still here.
I believe this poll MUCH more than the AP or ABC or CNN or (especially) the FOX polls.
Can someone please call ACORN? I was only able to vote once. 🙁
I’M VOTING FOR CTHULHU!
I thought all the Obama fans got on their high horses and left over the multiple Obama posts we’ve had here lately. Nice to see some (the sane ones) stayed! =) I picked that I haven’t decided yet, though. ‘Cause I haven’t. Don’t like any of the candidates, really. =/
how about the corpse of Ronald Reagan
its good to know he is still in the lead…
What about Chuck Baldwin for the Constitution party? Check out his website, baldwin08.com
RON PAUL!!!
*long post editted for those with short attention spans*
I’m white, Italian, and living in Brooklyn. I come from a military family with several members both serving and injured, even killed in Iraq. I work and and go to school full time. I voted for Bush in 2000. I wasted my vote on so called ‘Libertarians’ in 2004. I supported Ron Paul until I realized he was only against Federal governments but still wanted States to be allowed to abuse and discriminate against people if enouigh idiots voted in favor of it (see: slavery, civil war).
I’m voting for Obama because as much as I like McCain, he’s still blinded by the idea that we have some mission to “save” the middle east from itself. I think we shouldn’t be there. AT ALL. Add into this the fact that his running mate has openinly admitted that she thinks rape and molestation are not “good enough excuses” for abortion, they lost my vote. It’s still close on the issues, but I favor Obama and Biden in 69% of the issues which are important to me and my family.
I like this poll… not talking about the content as much as the URL and idea. Thanks. You’ll see one of these on my site someday soon. 🙂
The mission isn’t to “save the Middle East from itself”. The mission, in Iraq, was to depose a dictator, hostile to the US, with proven ties to terrorist organizations and a history of using WMD’s. And in case you’ve forgotten who the people were who actually made that argument to begin with, you should watch this:
When Bill Clinton was president, the Justice Department indicted Osama bin Laden. The indictment included the following language:
“…that Al Qaeda reached an agreement with Iraq not to work against the regime of Saddam Hussein and that they would work cooperatively with Iraq, particularly in weapons development. ”
After 9/11 Russia, who had a close relationship with Saddam and was selling him weapons in violation of UN sanctions, weapons we found in Iraq after the liberation, offered the Bush administration intelligence on Saddam’s plans. Putin’s answer to a question at a news conference in Europe gives us an insight into what that intelligence was:
” … Russian intelligence agencies probably had better capabilities to collect information in Iraq than their counterparts in the United States and also Britain and Israel, which reportedly helped build the U.S. case to attack …”
Putin spoke in response to a reporter’s question about an Interfax report on Thursday. The report, which cited an unidentified intelligence agent, said Russian intelligence had received information in early 2002 that Iraq was planning an attack against the United States.
“This information was more than once passed on to our U.S. partners in oral and written form in the fall of 2002,” the agent was quoted as saying.
The agent said Iraq’s plans needed to be made public because “in investigating the causes of the Iraq crisis, it is necessary to take into account everything, including the direct threat to the United States from Saddam Hussein’s regime.” – Simon Saradzhyan – Moscow Times – June 18, 2004 http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/850/49/230183.htm
“After Sept. 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, the Russian special services, the intelligence service, received information that officials from Saddam’s regime were preparing terrorist attacks in the United States and outside it against the U.S. military and other interests,” Putin said, according to RIA Novosti, the Russian news agency. “American President George Bush had an opportunity to personally thank the head of one of the Russian special services for this information, which he regarded as very important,” the Russian president told an interviewer while in Astana, capital of Kazakhstan.” – Walter Pincus, Washington Post Staff Writer, Saturday, June 19, 2004; Page A11
“ASTANA, Kazakhstan – Russia gave the Bush administration intelligence before the Iraq war that suggested Saddam Hussein’s regime was preparing attacks against the United States and its interests abroad, President Vladimir Putin said Friday.
Putin said he couldn’t comment on how critical the Russians’ information was in U.S. decision to invade Iraq. However, he said the intelligence didn’t cause Russia to waver from its firm opposition to the war.
“Indeed, after Sept. 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, the Russian special services … received information that officials from Saddam’s regime were preparing terrorist attacks in the United States and outside it against the U.S. military and other interests,” Putin said.
“Despite that information about terrorist attacks being prepared by Saddam’s regime, Russia’s position on Iraq remains unchanged,” Putin said.
Putin said Russia didn’t have any information that Saddam’s regime had actually been behind any terrorist acts. ” – The Associated Press, Updated: 8:03 a.m. ET June 18, 2004
The major networks, ABC-NBC-CBS-PBS-NPR, never reported Putin’s remarks so many people are unaware of them. You can be sure, however, that if Bush had not acted, and Saddam carried out his plans, the media would have dug this interview out and offered it up as evidence of Bush’s incompetence.
Our military should not be led by someone, like Barak Obama, who has no concept of the very real threats this nation faces.
I guess many of the readers of this site are what’s wrong with the US… They believe what the media tells them and have no clue what the issues are.
I’d like to know, those of you who aren’t voting (and there are lots of you):
Are you not old enough? Do you live in another country? Are you too damn lazy?
Seriously, I don’t care how you vote but if you are able to vote, just friggin do it.
@Art:
Saddam Hussein is dead. Osama Bin Laden is probably not.
Osama Bin Laden is guilty of the attacks that occurred on Sept. 11. Hussein had nothing to do with Sept. 11. We the people were promised after Sept. 11 that the responsible party/parties would be brought to justice. They have not been. We rarely hear Osama Bin Laden’s name anymore. Why is that?
We also sold Saddam Hussein weapons. We should probably stop doing that, it usually doesn’t pan out well for us.
Whether starting the war in Iraq was appropriate or not no longer matters. We have other problems now. Iraq cannot continue to be a revenue source for politicians protecting (no bid) contracts.
Afghanistan and Pakistan currently pose much more of a serious threat. Obama proposes to reallocate military assets to address the growing problem in Afghanistan.
We cannot continue to allow our military to be led by a political machine that puts corporate interests above the lives of our young people. We owe our troops more than that. We owe our country more than that. We have won in Iraq. We won when Saddam Hussein hang from the gallows. Some try to take that away by trying to sell implied defeat for reasons of political posturing. That is cheap and undermines the troops.
Palin repeatedly says to not look to the past, look to the future. Let’s follow her advice on that.
Make the right choice.
I agree with Meg…there’s no excuse to not vote. It’s easy. So easy that here in Ohio, ACORN (supported by Barak Obama [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU&eurl ]) has been registering some people dozens of times-some as many as 70 times each [http://video.google.com/videosearch?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=ohio+acorn+register+vote# ]. They are even offering folks cash & cigs to register [ http://www.nypost.com/seven/10102008/news/politics/1_voter__72_registrations_132965.htm ] and rumors on the street say that you can hold out for even better bribes in Akron/Canton.
I only wish Jonco’s poll was as sophisticated as the election here being run by Ohio Secretary of State Brunner and Gov. Strickland. In Jonco’s poll, we can only vote once, and nobody here seems to be passing out cash.
sorry meg i disagree. i was planning on not voting because truth be told I hate all three of them (bob barr). however, i have decided to vote since i have heard you can write in a candidate so I plan to write in ron paul.
Vote for Pedro!
“We also sold Saddam Hussein weapons. We should probably stop doing that, it usually doesn’t pan out well for us.”
Imported weapons to Iraq (IRQ) in 1973-2002
Country $MM USD 1990 % Total
USSR 25145 57.26
France 5595 12.74
China 5192 11.82
Czechoslovakia 2880 6.56
Poland 1681 3.83
Brazil 724 1.65
Egypt 568 1.29
Romania 524 1.19
Denmark 226 0.51
Libya 200 0.46
USA 200 0.46
South Africa 192 0.44
Austria 190 0.43
Switzerland 151 0.34
Yugoslavia 107 0.24
Germany (FRG) 84 0.19
Italy 84 0.19
UK 79 0.18
Hungary 30 0.07
Spain 29 0.07
East Germany (GDR) 25 0.06
Canada 7 0.02
Jordan 2 0.005
Total 43915 100.0
Compiled by Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
Holy crap! What time is it? I fell asleep reading Art’s comment.
Ohh and to the ACORN haters (I don’t like them either), it’s one thing to fill out a false voter registration, it’s another to actually vote under that false name.
From 2002-2005, there were exactly 26 voter fraud convictions. If what you care about is making sure every vote is valid and counts, there are much bigger fish to fry like faulty voting machines, lack of poll workers that cause long lines thus turning away votes, etc. These issues are much more prevalent and affect votes many, many times more than some Acorn clown
(oops, accidentally submitted)
…filling in fake registrations with all the players of the Dallas Cowboys. Ain’t no one gonna show up as Terrell Owens to vote in Utah.
“We the people were promised after Sept. 11 that the responsible party/parties would be brought to justice. They have not been.”
al-Qaeda has been decimated:
” … the terrorist movement as essentially defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia and on the defensive throughout much of the rest of the world, including in its presumed haven along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.”
“On balance, we are doing pretty well,” he said, ticking down a list of accomplishments: “Near strategic defeat of al-Qaeda in Iraq. Near strategic defeat for al-Qaeda in Saudi Arabia. Significant setbacks for al-Qaeda globally — and here I’m going to use the word ‘ideologically’ — as a lot of the Islamic world pushes back on their form of Islam,” he said.”
I have to vote again to find out what the results are, that’s not cool.
Im voting for …have your bloody election already…the rest of the world is sick and tired of hearing about it.
Sheesh boofhead Americans me me me me me me me me me.
where’s Ron Paul??? 😉
“Get your own poll…” That’s dirty.
Ron Paul is up there, it’s labeled “I won’t vote” =P
I’m voting for myself.
I guess the Obama fans are still here.
I believe this poll MUCH more than the AP or ABC or CNN or (especially) the FOX polls.
Can someone please call ACORN? I was only able to vote once. 🙁
I’M VOTING FOR CTHULHU!
I thought all the Obama fans got on their high horses and left over the multiple Obama posts we’ve had here lately. Nice to see some (the sane ones) stayed! =) I picked that I haven’t decided yet, though. ‘Cause I haven’t. Don’t like any of the candidates, really. =/
how about the corpse of Ronald Reagan
its good to know he is still in the lead…
What about Chuck Baldwin for the Constitution party? Check out his website, baldwin08.com
RON PAUL!!!
*long post editted for those with short attention spans*
I’m white, Italian, and living in Brooklyn. I come from a military family with several members both serving and injured, even killed in Iraq. I work and and go to school full time. I voted for Bush in 2000. I wasted my vote on so called ‘Libertarians’ in 2004. I supported Ron Paul until I realized he was only against Federal governments but still wanted States to be allowed to abuse and discriminate against people if enouigh idiots voted in favor of it (see: slavery, civil war).
I’m voting for Obama because as much as I like McCain, he’s still blinded by the idea that we have some mission to “save” the middle east from itself. I think we shouldn’t be there. AT ALL. Add into this the fact that his running mate has openinly admitted that she thinks rape and molestation are not “good enough excuses” for abortion, they lost my vote. It’s still close on the issues, but I favor Obama and Biden in 69% of the issues which are important to me and my family.
I like this poll… not talking about the content as much as the URL and idea. Thanks. You’ll see one of these on my site someday soon. 🙂
The mission isn’t to “save the Middle East from itself”. The mission, in Iraq, was to depose a dictator, hostile to the US, with proven ties to terrorist organizations and a history of using WMD’s. And in case you’ve forgotten who the people were who actually made that argument to begin with, you should watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7n3ivH3pCQ
Or, read this:
When Bill Clinton was president, the Justice Department indicted Osama bin Laden. The indictment included the following language:
“…that Al Qaeda reached an agreement with Iraq not to work against the regime of Saddam Hussein and that they would work cooperatively with Iraq, particularly in weapons development. ”
http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/11/98110602_nlt.html
Or if you want a lefty source, there this from the UK’s Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/1999/feb/06/julianborger
After 9/11 Russia, who had a close relationship with Saddam and was selling him weapons in violation of UN sanctions, weapons we found in Iraq after the liberation, offered the Bush administration intelligence on Saddam’s plans. Putin’s answer to a question at a news conference in Europe gives us an insight into what that intelligence was:
” … Russian intelligence agencies probably had better capabilities to collect information in Iraq than their counterparts in the United States and also Britain and Israel, which reportedly helped build the U.S. case to attack …”
Putin spoke in response to a reporter’s question about an Interfax report on Thursday. The report, which cited an unidentified intelligence agent, said Russian intelligence had received information in early 2002 that Iraq was planning an attack against the United States.
“This information was more than once passed on to our U.S. partners in oral and written form in the fall of 2002,” the agent was quoted as saying.
The agent said Iraq’s plans needed to be made public because “in investigating the causes of the Iraq crisis, it is necessary to take into account everything, including the direct threat to the United States from Saddam Hussein’s regime.” – Simon Saradzhyan – Moscow Times – June 18, 2004 http://www.moscowtimes.ru/article/850/49/230183.htm
“After Sept. 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, the Russian special services, the intelligence service, received information that officials from Saddam’s regime were preparing terrorist attacks in the United States and outside it against the U.S. military and other interests,” Putin said, according to RIA Novosti, the Russian news agency. “American President George Bush had an opportunity to personally thank the head of one of the Russian special services for this information, which he regarded as very important,” the Russian president told an interviewer while in Astana, capital of Kazakhstan.” – Walter Pincus, Washington Post Staff Writer, Saturday, June 19, 2004; Page A11
“ASTANA, Kazakhstan – Russia gave the Bush administration intelligence before the Iraq war that suggested Saddam Hussein’s regime was preparing attacks against the United States and its interests abroad, President Vladimir Putin said Friday.
Putin said he couldn’t comment on how critical the Russians’ information was in U.S. decision to invade Iraq. However, he said the intelligence didn’t cause Russia to waver from its firm opposition to the war.
“Indeed, after Sept. 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, the Russian special services … received information that officials from Saddam’s regime were preparing terrorist attacks in the United States and outside it against the U.S. military and other interests,” Putin said.
“Despite that information about terrorist attacks being prepared by Saddam’s regime, Russia’s position on Iraq remains unchanged,” Putin said.
Putin said Russia didn’t have any information that Saddam’s regime had actually been behind any terrorist acts. ” – The Associated Press, Updated: 8:03 a.m. ET June 18, 2004
The major networks, ABC-NBC-CBS-PBS-NPR, never reported Putin’s remarks so many people are unaware of them. You can be sure, however, that if Bush had not acted, and Saddam carried out his plans, the media would have dug this interview out and offered it up as evidence of Bush’s incompetence.
Our military should not be led by someone, like Barak Obama, who has no concept of the very real threats this nation faces.
I guess many of the readers of this site are what’s wrong with the US… They believe what the media tells them and have no clue what the issues are.
I’d like to know, those of you who aren’t voting (and there are lots of you):
Are you not old enough? Do you live in another country? Are you too damn lazy?
Seriously, I don’t care how you vote but if you are able to vote, just friggin do it.
@Art:
Saddam Hussein is dead. Osama Bin Laden is probably not.
Osama Bin Laden is guilty of the attacks that occurred on Sept. 11. Hussein had nothing to do with Sept. 11. We the people were promised after Sept. 11 that the responsible party/parties would be brought to justice. They have not been. We rarely hear Osama Bin Laden’s name anymore. Why is that?
We also sold Saddam Hussein weapons. We should probably stop doing that, it usually doesn’t pan out well for us.
Whether starting the war in Iraq was appropriate or not no longer matters. We have other problems now. Iraq cannot continue to be a revenue source for politicians protecting (no bid) contracts.
Afghanistan and Pakistan currently pose much more of a serious threat. Obama proposes to reallocate military assets to address the growing problem in Afghanistan.
We cannot continue to allow our military to be led by a political machine that puts corporate interests above the lives of our young people. We owe our troops more than that. We owe our country more than that. We have won in Iraq. We won when Saddam Hussein hang from the gallows. Some try to take that away by trying to sell implied defeat for reasons of political posturing. That is cheap and undermines the troops.
Palin repeatedly says to not look to the past, look to the future. Let’s follow her advice on that.
Make the right choice.
I agree with Meg…there’s no excuse to not vote. It’s easy. So easy that here in Ohio, ACORN (supported by Barak Obama [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU&eurl ]) has been registering some people dozens of times-some as many as 70 times each [http://video.google.com/videosearch?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=ohio+acorn+register+vote# ]. They are even offering folks cash & cigs to register [ http://www.nypost.com/seven/10102008/news/politics/1_voter__72_registrations_132965.htm ] and rumors on the street say that you can hold out for even better bribes in Akron/Canton.
I only wish Jonco’s poll was as sophisticated as the election here being run by Ohio Secretary of State Brunner and Gov. Strickland. In Jonco’s poll, we can only vote once, and nobody here seems to be passing out cash.
sorry meg i disagree. i was planning on not voting because truth be told I hate all three of them (bob barr). however, i have decided to vote since i have heard you can write in a candidate so I plan to write in ron paul.
Vote for Pedro!
“We also sold Saddam Hussein weapons. We should probably stop doing that, it usually doesn’t pan out well for us.”
Imported weapons to Iraq (IRQ) in 1973-2002
Country $MM USD 1990 % Total
USSR 25145 57.26
France 5595 12.74
China 5192 11.82
Czechoslovakia 2880 6.56
Poland 1681 3.83
Brazil 724 1.65
Egypt 568 1.29
Romania 524 1.19
Denmark 226 0.51
Libya 200 0.46
USA 200 0.46
South Africa 192 0.44
Austria 190 0.43
Switzerland 151 0.34
Yugoslavia 107 0.24
Germany (FRG) 84 0.19
Italy 84 0.19
UK 79 0.18
Hungary 30 0.07
Spain 29 0.07
East Germany (GDR) 25 0.06
Canada 7 0.02
Jordan 2 0.005
Total 43915 100.0
Compiled by Stockholm International Peace Research Institute
http://www.sipri.org/
Holy crap! What time is it? I fell asleep reading Art’s comment.
Ohh and to the ACORN haters (I don’t like them either), it’s one thing to fill out a false voter registration, it’s another to actually vote under that false name.
From 2002-2005, there were exactly 26 voter fraud convictions. If what you care about is making sure every vote is valid and counts, there are much bigger fish to fry like faulty voting machines, lack of poll workers that cause long lines thus turning away votes, etc. These issues are much more prevalent and affect votes many, many times more than some Acorn clown
(oops, accidentally submitted)
…filling in fake registrations with all the players of the Dallas Cowboys. Ain’t no one gonna show up as Terrell Owens to vote in Utah.
“We the people were promised after Sept. 11 that the responsible party/parties would be brought to justice. They have not been.”
al-Qaeda has been decimated:
” … the terrorist movement as essentially defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia and on the defensive throughout much of the rest of the world, including in its presumed haven along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.”
“On balance, we are doing pretty well,” he said, ticking down a list of accomplishments: “Near strategic defeat of al-Qaeda in Iraq. Near strategic defeat for al-Qaeda in Saudi Arabia. Significant setbacks for al-Qaeda globally — and here I’m going to use the word ‘ideologically’ — as a lot of the Islamic world pushes back on their form of Islam,” he said.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/29/AR2008052904116.html?nav=rss_world
I have to vote again to find out what the results are, that’s not cool.
Im voting for …have your bloody election already…the rest of the world is sick and tired of hearing about it.
Sheesh boofhead Americans me me me me me me me me me.