40 thoughts on “Don’t bring a gun to a snowball fight”

  1. Wow. Totally out of control situation for no reason. That detective was ridiculous! You could tell the uniformed cops were pretty much wondering why a snowball fight suddenly turned into an issue, and just wanted the detective to mount up and get the hell out of there. All because his car got hit by a snowball.

  2. What is sad is the fact that not a single person in that crowd had any respect for the fact that a man standing in the middle of the street had a gun. Regardless if he was a cop or not, if a man is standing in the middle of the street holding a gun, you don’t yell at him and continue to throw snowballs at him… Sad the society that we live in. Example, my wife has roadrage and I tell her constantly that she has to stop because at any moment someone could flip out, run her down, and something far worse. What people don’t realize today is that no-one cares about your rights, if they are crazy enough or in the right situation then something bad will happen. People don’t understand this and they don’t understand authority… Not that I agree with the way this detective handled the situation but used to a policeman told someone to stop something and they stopped, not that they all gathered on the side of the street and started harrassing them because they felt they were untouchable… Sad…That is why I have my concealed carry license and carry at all times. Springfield XD .45ACP (24/7, 365!!) P.S. Merry Christmas Everyone!

  3. Some frken dick throws a snowball at my $80000 + car I should be able to shoot him …isnt it a God given American right!!!

  4. His car is all plastic panel, should bounce off those snow projectiles like a trampoline. I would be worried more if it were aluminum.

  5. I would have been out of there as soon as I saw the guy with the gun. There was no indication to me that that was a cop.

  6. Even after everyone knew he was a cop and more uniform police officer arrived, still they continued calling him names. They even threw a snowabll at hime before the other cops arrived while he had his gun out. Are this people stupid? Can not they respect authority? Even if he seems to overreact, he is a policeman! Do you just do not stop after been pulled over because you do not think you are in the worng? They should be thankful that he did not slam anyone on the pavement or shot anyone.
    Morons!
    JL^

  7. Klaw, 2am Saturday morning a lost deputy on my front porch and I discussed the 2nd amendment rights of citizens. ten seconds prior I had no idea who he was and was holding a double barreled 12 gauge shotgun on him, and he didn’t see me.

    The indefinite combination of human beings and firearms will result in people killing other people.

  8. You had a shotgun in his face, he was a lost deputy. I think I lost you, I have a loaded clip in my house, but no loaded gun. See my point?

  9. Josh sez: “What is sad is the fact that not a single person in that crowd had any respect for the fact that a man standing in the middle of the street had a gun.”

    Respect???? I think the right word you were looking for is FEAR. I wouldn’t have had respect for an idiot like that who uses his authority that way. But I would fear him as he’s dumb enough to pull a gun in a situation like that. I would be complaining about him to his boss the first chance I got.

  10. yeah, the people should of been more worried because the guy had a gun. He should be jailed for what he did, he pulled a gun, making no effort to say he was a cop just trying to be an intimidating prick. Like the guy in the video said, he is a f**king pig.

  11. personly i think both sides are ridculus first give anyone with a badge some respect and you dont throw snowballs at cars either ive actually seen some really bad accidents just cuz some stupid kid was throwing snowballs at passing cars. and the cop i thought was reasonable at first but as soon as he called in back up thats what really got the whole situation close to a riot. my conclusion is people are stupid

  12. Mike, you are absolutely right. There are plenty of uneducated morons out there. Imagine, if you will, what type of a homelife those clowns screaming on the street corner have? They learned this behavior from their parents, a bigass circle.

  13. uhm hum, did we see the first part of the video? All cops identify themselves, especially in situations like this, I agree with Mike, it was the wrong place to be at the wrong time.

  14. I like how the people were instructed to get out of the street. What about the big f’in SUV sitting out in the middle of the road in a blizzard without its hazzard lights on or anything?

    But I agree, someone hits my car with a snowball, they better watch out. LOL. But then I’m not a trained officer of the law entrusted with upholding public safety.

  15. That was a Barney Fife move, not an Andy Griffith move. Imagine Barney Fife with a Hummer, and ego, and more than 1 bullet.

  16. some of you cop lovers got it all wrong! This power hungry cop should have just kept going after the snowball hit his car ,its a SNOWBALL not bullets from an ak-47. If he would have kept moving and not stepped out of his suv he would not have been hit in the face!! The crowd was having fun until this a-hole spolied it for them and now himself. What happened to SERVE AND PROTECT????

  17. IMO, this whole clip was about ‘face saving’ by the cop vs mob behaviour from the crowd resulting in misapplied escalation of force. Ego + Gun on one side vs Egos + Crowd Behaviour on the other results in a situation which rapidly spun out of control. Very little to do with any constitutional rights. The uniforms should have immediately separated the plainsclothes cop, and got him out of there.

    And for all those who demand respect for the police officer, Respect is earned only. In this case the cop had lost respect from the citizenry – law abiding or otherwise – long before this incident, hence his instinct to draw first…..

  18. I think when people are saying that “respect” was deserved, I’m taking it as respect for the situation. Police officer/detective or not, you see a weapon, things are automatically serious, and the fun (and taunting, and snowball throwing, etc) should stop.

    Personally, I wouldn’t have partaken in the initial snowball fight, but you can damn well rest assured that if something like that went down, I wouldn’t be around to see what happened. Many wrongs happened on that corner – and I’m just happy everyone is still around.

  19. To duuude: I did mean respect, I did not mean fear, one must learn not to Fear but to have Respect. I carry around a Springfield XD .45ACP when chambered holds 14 rounds, this is by anyone’s standards a dangerous and deadly weapon, I do not fear my sidearm but I respect it. I know how to handle it and know what NOT to do with it. Much like anyone in that crowd should learn to respect Authority, (Authority being used loosely in this definition to mean anything more dangerous than themselves). Which in this case happened to be a seemingly Pissed off cop in the middle of the street waving a gun. While I do not agree with this cop and while I do agree that the other officers should have gotten him out of there ASAP, it doesn’t give ANYONE the right to harrass him, I mean sure go ahead and harrass him but when he freaks out and shoots you, it was your own D@mn fault! Get It! 🙂 Merry Christmas Everyone.
    P.S. KLAW-you should check out the “Texas Defender” (very similar to your Judge), I know the guy who made the gun and it is an excellent piece of craftsmanship, small, lightweight, and ALL business!

  20. @KLAW, i did see the beginning, everyone seems to know that “some guy” and a “dude” has a gun, doesn’t seem like he was very well identified.

    Other comments: Police always talk about how highly trained they are, and this is how our highly trained police act? Police get too much leeway, they are meant to protect.

    I just know that if someone threw a snowball at my car, and my “I’m a COP(i’m not) *ROAR*” attitude kicks in and I start flashing my gun, the police will either shoot me, or they WILL arrest me and I WILL go to jail. They will not offer me a desk job down at the station.

  21. Did anyone actually WATCH this video or read the corresponding report? A detective sees a crowd which is throwing snowballs at passing cars…probably a decent enough reason to stop and investigate. In the course stopping and looking, someone sees a gun on his belt WHICH HE NEVER DRAWS, despite the commentary on the video. He overhears the crowd say ‘he’s got a gun’ and concludes that the walkie talkie in his hand is a gun? You’d think the fact that he’s holding it up to his face might have been a clue.

    Someone calls in a ‘man with a gun’, which in DC pretty much means a cop or a criminal, and an officer responding to that call is the one who drew (perfectly good idea under the circumstances).

    Another nice touch they failed to show were the sign carrying protesters dressed in black with face masks on…understandable in the cold, but also worth spending a little time checking out.

    I think the real problem here is mob mentality completely failing to appreciate the guys who would probably put their life on the line for any individual in the mob.

  22. OK ok, rewatching, it does look like a gun he has out, which directly conflicts with the report on it which indicates only a uniformed officer had a gun out.

  23. I may have missed it in the comments somewhere, but throwing a snowball at somebody is technically assault. Something to think about.

    While i think all parties over reacted, just put yourself in the cops shoes for a second. What has happened to him earlier in the day? Who knows, but cops work long shifts with little sleep sometimes.

    What unnerves me is the fact that people continued to egg him on after he pulled a gun out.

  24. It sure looked like a gun to me, I never heard him identify himself as a police officer until the uniforms got there, and if that was a gun he was waving around in a crouwd full of civilians he needed to be suspended at least. Lucky for him there wasn’t some crazy ass in the crowd with a gun as well who took a shot at him, cop or not.

  25. I was kind of thinking that too Baron, but these days people can buy anything on credit,sooo… Either that or maybe he’s Vice, you know like Crockett and Tubbs.

  26. There’s power in numbers…..This power clown shoulda been boiled in his own oil…so to speak.

    Would love to have seen him overpowered, tied-up behind suv, and drug thru the street by his heels! This community has gotta be embarrassed as hell by this hot-head-jack-ass!

  27. There is no reason he should have ever pulled his gun out and I’m willing to bet he will be getting a few days suspension for his actions. Yes being hit with a snowball could be assault, but there is no imminent threat to his life or others to warrant unholstering a gun.

    as for the suv…some departments pay crappy, some pay well. he may work a lot of off-duties or overtime and is making a lot of extra money that way. i also work with several officers who own propery that they rent out–pleanty of ways he could be paying for that hummer.

  28. Josh: YOU may think guns bring about respect. That’s the problem with the NRA. Maybe you should look at the situation through someone else’s eyes. Nobody is “respectful” of someone who has a gun. They fear that this person may be a lunatic who could go postal at any time and decide to put down a few perfectly good human beings.

    So I guess you “respect” people who are a lot stronger and meaner than you by your argument. That kind’a doesn’t hold much water does it?

    Just in case you still want to argue, type the following in Google and read it carefully:

    define: respect

    In case you don’t want to do it, here’s the list for ya! It says nothing about respect going towards the one with the bigger gun:

    (usually preceded by `in’) a detail or point; “it differs in that respect”
    esteem: the condition of being honored (esteemed or respected or well regarded); “it is held in esteem”; “a man who has earned high regard”
    an attitude of admiration or esteem; “she lost all respect for him”
    deference: a courteous expression (by word or deed) of esteem or regard; “his deference to her wishes was very flattering”; “be sure to give my respects to the dean”
    obedience: behavior intended to please your parents; “their children were never very strong on obedience”; “he went to law school out of respect for his father’s wishes”
    regard highly; think much of; “I respect his judgement”; “We prize his creativity”
    regard: a feeling of friendship and esteem; “she mistook his manly regard for love”; “he inspires respect”
    show respect towards; “honor your parents!”

  29. Duuude:Sounds like you are making this a little personal…chill out and take your prozac.
    Second of all, if you want to make this personal then we will. The “definition” that you seemed to have copy was straight out of freedictionary.com. Well if you go to that website and type in “respect” you will notice that you copied all of those “definitions” from the Thesaurus section and on top of that you copied it out of the Noun section….. No where did I use “Respect” as a noun, but rather as a VERB, and the Thesaurus is NOT a Definition. So here is the proper DEFINITION of respect!
    Let me bring your attention to even just the first two items. “TO FEEL OR SHOW DEFERENTIAL REGARD FOR” “TO AVOID VIOLATION OF OR INTERFERENCE WITH”
    Hmmm, you probably should have paid attention in school and you would have realized that the word Respect was used correctly in this situation…

    “re·spect (r-spkt)
    tr.v. re·spect·ed, re·spect·ing, re·spects
    1. To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem.
    2. To avoid violation of or interference with: respect the speed limit.
    3. To relate or refer to; concern.
    n.
    1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. See Synonyms at regard.
    2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem.
    3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation.
    4. respects Polite expressions of consideration or deference: pay one’s respects.
    5. A particular aspect, feature, or detail: In many respects this is an important decision.
    6. Usage Problem Relation; reference. See Usage Note at regard.”

    Again, Merry Christmas to Everyone and I wish you All (even Duuude) a Happy New Year!!! 🙂

  30. Josh: Merry Christmas to you too. And just keep asking Santa for bigger sticks and see if one day everyone in the world will “respect” you more. Then then tells us all how that’s working out for you. I’m sure a couple of youngsters in the blog could learn from it.

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