16 thoughts on “Good Advice. We seem to have lost sight of the reason”

  2. The fact is, when in a public restroom, the “person in question” will use a stall no matter which gender they see themselves as. (a women’s restroom is all stalls, and if a female to male goes in a men’s room, they will also use a stall, unless they went thru the necessary surgery, which makes any issue moot.) So unless one finds it necessary to see people utilize the toilet and that person’s private parts, the problem isn’t the person urinating or defecating, but the person who has the need to see or know that person take that shit or piss.

    Gender identity aside, if as a male using the public restroom, do you get bent out of shape when a father brings his daughter into a stall? Or do you believe that the father should go into a women’s restroom? Try not to assume that the mother is available. The question is based in reality not perfect ideal situations.

    • If they were raped by a man in womanface ( whatever that is) then he is not a transsexual but a heterosexual predator like the guests at Epstein’s Island. Including his former BFF.

      • Yes, but if a guy is trans or a perve dressed as a woman, either could be allowed into the women’s bathroom.

        How does one keep the latter out?

        • Addendum to my post:
          The question: “How does one keep the latter out?”

          The answer is, don’t accept the invitation to meet him in the women’s bathroom.

        • Because he wasn’t going in as female. He went in with intent other than utilizing the toilet. You used the term “womanface” which is odd. Unsure if you meant in make up or he went in Ed Gein style. Either way, that point was never put out in any article I found, and again, he was not transgender at the time. Confused, maybe, but not transgender. Taking a singular situation (or in this case, a singular individual in two cases) does not equate to all real transgenders. Subtle distinctions can be difficult to some as their thinking is clouded by bias, bigotry and inability to see the bigger picture.

          https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/teen-convicted-of-sex-assault-doesnt-identify-as-female-despite-skirt/

          Then there’s the fact there’s more to the story than you suggest: https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/loudoun-judge-finds-teen-guilty-of-sexual-assaulting-girl-in-school-bathroom/article_eb72d3ee-35fc-11ec-8a1d-b3ed9d74b61a.html

          Not sure if you’re aware of the fact that the victim’s knew each other quite well outside of the bathroom incident. Does that make a difference to you? Or is your bigotry stronger than dealing with facts? Not asking you to accept the crime, just understand the difference in what you’re suggesting to what the issue actually is. My experience with debating you the answer would be no, you can’t.

          • So just because he wore a skirt, he was allowed to enter the girl’s bathroom.

            So they knew each other–how does what happened make it acceptable?

            Yet my question still remains: how do the girls/women in the restroom are able to tell he is a trans or a perv?

            • how would one allow or disallow entry?

              and here’s how we teach our daughters to tell – if they go to a stall and do their business, or if they try and lay hands on others? then I certainly hope other teachings kick in for self defense

            • So just because he wore a skirt, he was allowed to enter the girl’s bathroom.
              He entered because that was the agreed rendezvous. The skirt, or kilt, depending on whose story you go with, is just a by-product of the trans issue. If you bothered reading any of the links you’d know that.

              So they knew each other–how does what happened make it acceptable?
              You’re reading comprehension needs work. Never said or suggested the rape was acceptable.

              Yet my question still remains: how do the girls/women in the restroom are able to tell he is a trans or a perv?
              They don’t. In this case the best preventative way was to not agree to meet him there. The main reason for her being in there was not to utilize the toilet, but rather to utilize the space. Or at the very least she should have brought a friend. The fact is, there is nothing from stopping a male in male clothing from entering a women’s restroom or visa verse. I’m sure there are plenty of stories of one gender walking into the other gender’s restroom by mistake and some maybe not by mistake. But the underlying fact is, it was agreed to meet there and rapes most often happen with people one knows. https://violenceprevention.utah.edu/2024/03/28/lets-keep-oppression-out-of-bathrooms/

              Transgender issues aside, the rape would have happened anyway. You’re looking for an “other” to blame when the facts show, that isn’t the issue.

              So the question to ask of you is, if he went in wearing all male clothing and then raped her, what, not who, do you blame then? And don’t deflect, because those situations happen.

              • The rapist is to blame and, if found guilty, should be punished to the extent allowed by law.

                You think my reading comprehension is lacking, yet you do not understand my question–how does a girl or woman know that a guy coming into the girl’s/women’s bathroom wearing female clothing or whatever is a trans or a perv? I did not even imply whether they knew each other–in fact, I implied they did not know each other.

                • Yep, your reading comprehension is below average. You refuse to acknowledge that most rapes happen by people who know each other and that your question is a red herring. A rape most likely is going to happen without witnesses. This instance the two involved agreed to meet each other alone in the restroom.

                  When it comes to public restrooms a female learns to assess their surroundings as to whether an abundance of caution is needed or perhaps bring a friend to tag along. Have you ever dated an adult female long enough to learn about them?

                  Another point you need to consider is knowing this particular incident wasn’t a trans who entered, so you can eliminate this story from your little brain file, what other rapes can you point out that was done by an actual trans in a women’s restroom?

                  Then to again point out your lack of comprehension, put your straight male in women’s clothing argument to the same test. Provide the links and numbers.

  4. There are people who know they’re racist and bigots and in a normal polite society would know their beliefs would be seen as a huge negative upon them. This administration has made hate and ignorance allowable and a necessary trait to inflict upon others. This is a product of a right wing media which proffers in hate and fear.
    A side note on media: Media today is extremely right wing by any measure. When one takes in consideration of ownership, the majority of media outlets are owned by conservative billionaires. This not only includes television but also print and radio. That was the intended goal a couple of decades ago. The plan can be read in the Powell Memo. (https://theamericanleader.org/timeline-event/the-blueprint-powells-memo/ ) Read that and I challenge one to not see it being played out today.

    Back to the issue of hate and fear. Psychology tells us these are base instincts. A simple AI search gives us: “Fear is a core emotion linked to survival, while hate is often a learned response that stems from fear, insecurity, and a perceived threat to oneself or one’s group. The psychology of hate involves a cycle where fear can turn into anger, and then into hate, which can serve as a defense mechanism to regain a sense of power or control over feelings of helplessness or shame by projecting them onto others. Understanding these emotions is crucial, as both fear and hate can be managed through empathy, education, and open dialogue to reduce their development and spread. “

    Note the last part which to the right wing calls weaknesses or “woke”. Essentially telling their followers to not be human, otherwise be seen as weak. The right has worked tirelessly for a generation to build a nation of fearful, hateful and ignorant people. An education often curtails those efforts which is one reason the right works hard to make education an expensive enterprise. Uneducated people are much easier to control. Not saying education is a full-proof armor against hate and fear, but when the process of critical thinking is applied, one can turn themselves around.

    The larger point I’m leading to is, here was an exchange where hate was applied to a group to allow fear or derision of them. By providing receipts, I have shown that those emotions were wrongly applied. Once those terms were confronted, the argument became a non-existent issue of men in female clothing raping women. The challenge of providing proof that this is real issue was not provided. Instead, they chose to go silent. This is possibly an admission they are aware of their sad psychological traits and refuse to confront it for fear of being ostracized by civil society. Perhaps a case of damaged people who need to damage people.

    Now, if and when, they read this essay, they may deflect these facts by saying they find no purpose in producing the evidence because I’m… whatever insult they can vomit out… therefore I’m not worth their time. When in fact, what they are saying is they can’t prove their ignorance (the seed of hate) and refuse to admit their irrationality on the matter. Which, by the way, would be an admission of weakness.

    To the original subject of transexuals, what this thread shows is a party willing to demagogue a tiny sliver of society because, being so small, they can’t provide the backlash of more powerful groups. As of now, transexuals make up maybe less than 1% of the population. Hardly a threatening number to be accused of sucking vast amounts of tax dollars, harming society or just being a threat by existing. But someone chose to cling to right wing values of selective non-existent fears of a tiny group because that’s what bullies do: Find a weak target and attack. Ironically, conservative practice would allow these people to be, as interference in one’s personal choices, a product within individual liberty, is tantamount to conservative principles, but one cannot manipulate the weak without inciting fear and divisiveness.

    Transphobia stems from a belief that transgender individuals threaten the gender binary, which is seen by some as fundamental to social and political structures. Again, notice the implied fear of a small group. And that’s what this all about. There are people who live in fear and consume vast amounts of propaganda to feed that fear until rational thought is eliminated from that individual and all they are left with is basic instincts of hateful beliefs. They exist in a world where they feel helpless and paranoid, so they glom onto sources that feed those neuroses, therefore belonging to a group of like-minded people and no longer feeling alone. The psychology in this case is pretty simple. When you feel small, lashing out at a smaller group enlarges one’s perception of self. It’s a false perception in the real world, but they don’t live in that world. They live in a world where the reality of everything they detest and fear will always exist despite their hate, so the reality of being better than the rest can never be achieved other than by lying to oneself. Yet, they keep trying.

    When you challenge a bigot, the outcome can vary, they may become defensive or angry, while some individuals may reflect on their behavior and show enduring prejudice reduction. I do not believe the latter will happen here. The individuals this is meant for are very rigid in their thought and refuse to see reality. Reality is not within their control so that would diminish what they think they now have—power. The problem is besides that idea of power being based in incorrect information on a topic they have no understanding of, that power is also fraught with problems with no real solutions other than stoking more fear and hate. Making an effort to educate themselves on issues requires work, and ignorance breeds well in laziness. So, I don’t expect an honest effort to be made, but more likely along the lines of what I already stated: pronouncements of bitterness, anger, self-righteousness, indignation, name calling, deflections, avoidance or a mix of all.

    They can deny all my diagnoses, but someone chose to take the topic of transexual use of public bathrooms and turn it into men dressing in drag for the explicit purpose of raping women in a women’s restroom all for the need of supporting their hate and bigotry. That’s quite a turn of positions from the actual issue. Because to believe when a man intends to rape a woman, he will work out a plan to dress in drag just to get into a woman’s restroom where he has a pick of the litter, as it may be, to commit rape, is short of being a slight psychopathy to create that illusion of reality. Mind you, they made this assertion, not once but multiple times. If they can’t see the ludicrous nature of that, then I stand by my statement.

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