Paul – If you have noticed, the term “health care reform” has morphed into “health insurance reform”. The focus groups have spoken again! Folks apparently got agitated with the Dems talking about going after doctors, so they are now going after the insurance companies. There was an article in todays Atlanta paper showing a woman crying because her friend was sick and with no insurance, was afraid to go to the emergency room. She died and this women blamed the health insurance companies, even though emergency room service is free…
Richard, don’t you think if we had single payer insurance then this woman would not have been afraid to go to the ER, and she would still be alive today?
Nope, Paul. Because with everything essentially free, we overwhelm the medical staff and we end up either running them off or waiting an inordinate time for limited resources.
Try an experiment. Put some brownies on your desk with a sign saying $1.00 each and watch the folks trickle in. Tomorrow, put the same size plate out with a sign saying Free and watch the crowd assemble. I know we’re not talking about brownies. But if folks don’t have a little hide in this, they’re going to take it and use it frivolously over hangnails and stubbed toes.
I agree with your concept of a ‘commission’ to study the different systems and make recommendations. We can start at home. We have some phenomenol, well run facilities, and we have some I wouldn’t take a dog to. We have financially sound systems, we have losers. After we’ve found the best of the best here, the stuff we shouldn’t or won’t do without, then look at the other countries and fold the best practices in. Total time to investigate and develop plans, 12-18 months. Cost? Let’s allocate about $200M. We can’t wait 12-18 months? We can’t afford not to wait. If we don’t have time to do it right, when will we have time to do it again. $200M is a lot of money to throw away? In the scale of what we’re seeing, that’s not even 6 months interest.
Somewhere, between Free and $1.00, we can get the perfect brownie. But we don’t need the uninformed to set the recipe or price.
Rev, I agree. The problem is the untold sums of money being thrown at politicians by the insurance and pharmacy companies to do, at best, marginal changes that will look as if they will accomplish something, but won’t. Kind of like putting lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig, isn’t it?
I’m on medicare – a government run program, so I know of where I speak.
Point #1 – My cardiologist told me that more & more of his colleagues are refusing medicare patients because the system either is too slow in paying or not paying at all. It’s BROKE!
Thank God that I have, on top of medicare, my private insurance (BC/BS). They’re not perfect but at least they’re accepted by ALL.
Point #2 – When we add (depending on which numbers you use) 46 to 50 MILLION new people into the system, where are we going to get the doctors to cover them all? When doctors can’t compete they lose the incentive to make more money and drop out of the profession. Why would anyone get into the practice if they won’t even be able to pay back their student loan (roughly $300,000 at end of education).
Point #3 – If health care is a “right”, then shouldn’t food be as well? Why don’t we all just go into a grocery store and get whatever we want – as MUCH as we want – and let the “other” people pay for it?
Point #4 – Besides, if we got the Obama-Lama-Ding-Dong “care”, where would the Canadians go to get QUALITY health care?
-Socialism is good until we run out of other people’s money-
Ummmm if this is all true then there should be plenty of money on the “pool” for Social Security…..Ummm not and there should be plenty of money in there for Medicare ummmmmmm…Nope, not there either…All the scools are properly supplied and lall the kids should get a free lunch and there will be new books for everyone….Ummmm again….not !!! Everytine the government becomes involved in the private sector it becomes a MESS ! Health Care is not a right if or when someone can TAKE IT FROM YOU !
Some are under the impression that the government will not and doesn’t spend money it does not have. Those checks keep coming but the books are in the red!
Police, Fire, Water, etc. is not free as you state in your video – we pay with that through our TAXES…and the police and fire departments also rely a lot on DONATIONS.
Besides, if we got the Obama-Lama-Ding-Dong “care”, where would the Canadians go to get QUALITY health
care?
If you believe that HOGWASH, then I have some land in Florida to sell you.
The “Government” has already tried to run Health Care (Medicare) and they ran it into the ground! It is BROKE!
For those who say it isn’t, then take a look at our National Debt. This is the so called “pool” of money. It looks like the only thing in there are a
Paul – Nice try, but why leave out the accident claims lawyers?
Richard,
Seems to me if we took my approach, there would be no need for that particular species of scum, would there?
Paul – If you have noticed, the term “health care reform” has morphed into “health insurance reform”. The focus groups have spoken again! Folks apparently got agitated with the Dems talking about going after doctors, so they are now going after the insurance companies. There was an article in todays Atlanta paper showing a woman crying because her friend was sick and with no insurance, was afraid to go to the emergency room. She died and this women blamed the health insurance companies, even though emergency room service is free…
Richard, don’t you think if we had single payer insurance then this woman would not have been afraid to go to the ER, and she would still be alive today?
Nope, Paul. Because with everything essentially free, we overwhelm the medical staff and we end up either running them off or waiting an inordinate time for limited resources.
Try an experiment. Put some brownies on your desk with a sign saying $1.00 each and watch the folks trickle in. Tomorrow, put the same size plate out with a sign saying Free and watch the crowd assemble. I know we’re not talking about brownies. But if folks don’t have a little hide in this, they’re going to take it and use it frivolously over hangnails and stubbed toes.
I agree with your concept of a ‘commission’ to study the different systems and make recommendations. We can start at home. We have some phenomenol, well run facilities, and we have some I wouldn’t take a dog to. We have financially sound systems, we have losers. After we’ve found the best of the best here, the stuff we shouldn’t or won’t do without, then look at the other countries and fold the best practices in. Total time to investigate and develop plans, 12-18 months. Cost? Let’s allocate about $200M. We can’t wait 12-18 months? We can’t afford not to wait. If we don’t have time to do it right, when will we have time to do it again. $200M is a lot of money to throw away? In the scale of what we’re seeing, that’s not even 6 months interest.
Somewhere, between Free and $1.00, we can get the perfect brownie. But we don’t need the uninformed to set the recipe or price.
Rev, I agree. The problem is the untold sums of money being thrown at politicians by the insurance and pharmacy companies to do, at best, marginal changes that will look as if they will accomplish something, but won’t. Kind of like putting lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig, isn’t it?
Social Security is broke? How can they keep sending my kids a check every month?
Medicare is broke? But they covered my MIL’s hospitalization only last month!
I’m on medicare – a government run program, so I know of where I speak.
Point #1 – My cardiologist told me that more & more of his colleagues are refusing medicare patients because the system either is too slow in paying or not paying at all. It’s BROKE!
Thank God that I have, on top of medicare, my private insurance (BC/BS). They’re not perfect but at least they’re accepted by ALL.
Point #2 – When we add (depending on which numbers you use) 46 to 50 MILLION new people into the system, where are we going to get the doctors to cover them all? When doctors can’t compete they lose the incentive to make more money and drop out of the profession. Why would anyone get into the practice if they won’t even be able to pay back their student loan (roughly $300,000 at end of education).
Point #3 – If health care is a “right”, then shouldn’t food be as well? Why don’t we all just go into a grocery store and get whatever we want – as MUCH as we want – and let the “other” people pay for it?
Point #4 – Besides, if we got the Obama-Lama-Ding-Dong “care”, where would the Canadians go to get QUALITY health care?
-Socialism is good until we run out of other people’s money-
Ummmm if this is all true then there should be plenty of money on the “pool” for Social Security…..Ummm not and there should be plenty of money in there for Medicare ummmmmmm…Nope, not there either…All the scools are properly supplied and lall the kids should get a free lunch and there will be new books for everyone….Ummmm again….not !!! Everytine the government becomes involved in the private sector it becomes a MESS ! Health Care is not a right if or when someone can TAKE IT FROM YOU !
Some are under the impression that the government will not and doesn’t spend money it does not have. Those checks keep coming but the books are in the red!
Police, Fire, Water, etc. is not free as you state in your video – we pay with that through our TAXES…and the police and fire departments also rely a lot on DONATIONS.
+1
If you believe that HOGWASH, then I have some land in Florida to sell you.
The “Government” has already tried to run Health Care (Medicare) and they ran it into the ground! It is BROKE!
For those who say it isn’t, then take a look at our National Debt. This is the so called “pool” of money. It looks like the only thing in there are a
bunch of I.O.U’s.
STOP TRYING TO DESTROY THIS GREAT COUNTRY!!!
If only it was as simple as stick figures.