31 thoughts on “Conventional logic vs. religious logic”
Brilliant
yes very religious people usually have big heads and are scary, that’s the point right?
Way to prove the point, Brett.
Hallelujah!
My bible has pictures, they’re better than these ones.
Though religious Nazis are scary…doesn’t mean what they are saying isn’t true. BTW, I’m assuming that by “religious” you mean Christianity. I mean, usually these cartoons are against Christianity and not religion in general. Also, while I was perusing Myspace the other day I went to a site that I thought was going to try and disprove Biblical things and such…but it talked scientifically about how people try to disprove it through science and archaeology etc..but has not been able to. It was intriguing. I also read somewhere about how Muslims think that Mickey Mouse is working for the devil or something…
Of course this is about Christianity; if it were about Islam, the infidel asking the other to prove it would be killed immediately.
This is only funny to someone who cannot figure out the qualitative difference between a baseball and a religious belief. Which is to say, can’t figure out the difference between something that is inherently provable, and something that is, by definition, unprovable.
Anti-Christian cartoons = hilarious & encouraged, mostly by ‘open-minded’, ‘all-inclusive’, ‘big-tent’ liberals.
Anti-Jewish cartoons = hilarious & encouraged, mostly by ‘open-minded’, ‘all-inclusive’, ‘big-tent’ liberals.
Anti-Catholic priest cartoons = hilarious & encouraged, mostly by ‘open-minded’, ‘all-inclusive’, ‘big-tent’ liberals.
Anti-Buddha cartoons = hilarious & encouraged, mostly by ‘open-minded’, ‘all-inclusive’, ‘big-tent’ liberals.
Anti-Muslim cartoons = forbidden, punishable by death of cartoonist, publisher. Liberal media trembles, caves.
@Daniel You can read lots of things. Just because it’s written down, doesn’t mean it’s true. And the inherent base of religion is that it cannot be proven or disproven. Proof denies faith and without faith religion is nothing.
What is a ‘big-tent’ liberal? One who’s at the circus?
@DJ LOL
@Dan Disagree about proof denying faith. Proof can help to solidify a faith. I have faith everyday that when I sit in my chair it will hold me up, I have proof and live by that fact.
Religion is the uneducated man’s way to explain what he does not understand.
This is the 21st century. Wake up.
Caricatures are often funny because they are rooted in truth. This one hits a little too close to home for some apparently. 🙂
I’m thinking that the two Eyebrows of the religious fanatic are actually meant to be a unibrow, in his anger they broke apart…how sad.
cartoons are funny
bad analogies can lead you to the wrong places.
I, for one, am a very big fan of Anti Muslim cartoons.
So you don’t believe. that’s fine with me. but don’t put me down cause I do. who are the closed-minded here? Like a look in the mirror the tables are turned.
hope to see you in that happy hunting ground in the sky someday.
Atheistic Existentialism is only to the death.
To “Reader” and all those who believe “Religion is the uneducated man’s way to explain what he does not understand.”
A common bit of modern hagiographic folkore, the exact circumstances of which I have been unable to trace, reports that on one day about a hundred years ago, a young brash scientist on his way to a conference shared a train compartment with a quiet old man who looked to be an example of that type once so common in France, that of the wealthy peasant. He noticed the old gentleman was telling the beads of a rosary, and proceeded to hector him, asking him why he bothered with such outdated things in an age of scientific progress.
The old man asked, “What is this science? Perhaps you can explain it to me.” He was clearly moved, and had tears in his eyes. The young student, slightly embarassed by the reaction he’d brought about, said he would send him some pamphlets to explain the subject to him, if he’d just give him his address. The old man’s stop had come up, and he was about to step out. The old man rummaged around in his coat and pulled out a business card, and just as he left the compartment, the young man realized it read, “Louis Pasteur, Director of the Institute of Scientific Research, Paris.”
Whether or not this story is true–and it certainly could be, given Louis Pasteur’s very genuine faith–it’s a matter of historic record that the great man died with a rosary in his hand, after having had the life of St. Vincent de Paul read aloud to him. The saint was one of his heroes, and an inspiration for his own scientific work, that it might benefit the lives of children as the saint’s own charity had.
Therefore, I assume “Reader” considers Doctor Pasteur, and all Christians with a Bachelor’s Degree or higher, as uneducated.
Most religious people are uneducated in science. If a scientist understands how the brain works, including the process of self-awareness, then he should realize that faith in some invisible being in the sky is purely an illusion.
I have faith. In my morals, in humanity, in the laws of nature. I also realize that when I die my brain cells will stop working and my “soul” will be no more.
Reader, I have a 1st Class Honors in Engineering and a Bachelor of Science. I’m also religious.
You’re a tool.
Do you understand evolution? Do you understand the evolutionary reasons behind emotion? Do you know what “love” really is? When you have all the information, you will make up your own mind and see.
But in reality, things do seem much nicer if you can have faith in god and believe that love is just a magical thing, that death is only temporary, etc.
Ignorance is bliss.
Yes I do understand those things, Reader. In fact, I find natural history and human psychology very interesting. If you read Genesis, you might notice evolution of the world being described to simple minded people with eras referred to as days.
Things in your world must be very dark, gloomy and restrictive.
The genesis was written by men who knew little about the world in a time people believed the gods affected their daily lives.
Reader, you can’t argue with someone that believes. Blind faith means that anything can attributed to god without question, doesn’t matter how daft, contradictory or even down right evil.
Jonco… Jesus still loves you!
……when a debate/discussion comes down to name calling, what is it?
Faith is essentially our world view, people defend their worldview regardless of what they believe happens at the point of death. To be proven wrong, on either side, would mean that one has lived a lie. Though coping with living a lie may not be too bad…does anyone really want to live it? Once truth has been found, to the best of one’s ability, that truth should be proven both by trying to prove it correct (And in so looking for the best arguments for) and also trying to prove it incorrect (thus finding the best arguments against). If arguments for the said faith are found to be true and the arguments against are found to be false…then it must be assumed to be true. This is true vice versa as well. Also, when trying to prove either way you must try to put your presuppositions aside. You cannot start assuming you are right and then making everything fit into that view, on the flipside you cannot view something as wrong and therefore make everything fit into that belief. It is very difficult to have such an objective research. To get down to it…you also must use historical FACTS (Not theories) and you need to use the scientific method. (The whole method, not just what you wish of it) When you get down to it, one way or another, you will not have an absolute, solid, definitive, no qualms, no questions answer for any choice….so the one that seems to have the most TRUTH and FACTS behind it should be the one chosen and then upon that choice your faith, in what you chose, will cause you to believe the other parts that have not been proven or disproven yet. Of course, then you just may choose whatever is most comfortable/easiest and say screw all that because I do what I want. LOL
Whew…I felt like Will Ferrel from Old School. Remember when he had to answer the debate question against the guy from Crossfire and he went into a small trance? LOL
Dan,
Thanks!
So you believe in evolution and science. In all the time that mankind has been on this earth and for as long as monkey, chimps and apes have been in captivity for men to watch. Has anyone every seen one ever evolve into anything that was not what his parents were? As much as people have interacted with them have they been able to actually teach them to carry on a conversation, to think? If we evolved into a different species should not have something else evolved since then with all the changes to the world? When they find a primitive tribe in Africa or South America have we ever found any in a stage between what we supposedly were and now are today?
They use carbon dating to say something is 5 million years old, I say prove it.
Oh…my…god…
You don’t have a clue about what evolution teaches, so just leave it.
By the way, who do you vote for? Republicans? Do you think they would approve the following message:
Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Brilliant
yes very religious people usually have big heads and are scary, that’s the point right?
Way to prove the point, Brett.
Hallelujah!
My bible has pictures, they’re better than these ones.
Though religious Nazis are scary…doesn’t mean what they are saying isn’t true. BTW, I’m assuming that by “religious” you mean Christianity. I mean, usually these cartoons are against Christianity and not religion in general. Also, while I was perusing Myspace the other day I went to a site that I thought was going to try and disprove Biblical things and such…but it talked scientifically about how people try to disprove it through science and archaeology etc..but has not been able to. It was intriguing. I also read somewhere about how Muslims think that Mickey Mouse is working for the devil or something…
Of course this is about Christianity; if it were about Islam, the infidel asking the other to prove it would be killed immediately.
This is only funny to someone who cannot figure out the qualitative difference between a baseball and a religious belief. Which is to say, can’t figure out the difference between something that is inherently provable, and something that is, by definition, unprovable.
Anti-Christian cartoons = hilarious & encouraged, mostly by ‘open-minded’, ‘all-inclusive’, ‘big-tent’ liberals.
Anti-Jewish cartoons = hilarious & encouraged, mostly by ‘open-minded’, ‘all-inclusive’, ‘big-tent’ liberals.
Anti-Catholic priest cartoons = hilarious & encouraged, mostly by ‘open-minded’, ‘all-inclusive’, ‘big-tent’ liberals.
Anti-Buddha cartoons = hilarious & encouraged, mostly by ‘open-minded’, ‘all-inclusive’, ‘big-tent’ liberals.
Anti-Muslim cartoons = forbidden, punishable by death of cartoonist, publisher. Liberal media trembles, caves.
@Daniel You can read lots of things. Just because it’s written down, doesn’t mean it’s true. And the inherent base of religion is that it cannot be proven or disproven. Proof denies faith and without faith religion is nothing.
What is a ‘big-tent’ liberal? One who’s at the circus?
@DJ LOL
@Dan Disagree about proof denying faith. Proof can help to solidify a faith. I have faith everyday that when I sit in my chair it will hold me up, I have proof and live by that fact.
Religion is the uneducated man’s way to explain what he does not understand.
This is the 21st century. Wake up.
Caricatures are often funny because they are rooted in truth. This one hits a little too close to home for some apparently. 🙂
I’m thinking that the two Eyebrows of the religious fanatic are actually meant to be a unibrow, in his anger they broke apart…how sad.
cartoons are funny
bad analogies can lead you to the wrong places.
I, for one, am a very big fan of Anti Muslim cartoons.
So you don’t believe. that’s fine with me. but don’t put me down cause I do. who are the closed-minded here? Like a look in the mirror the tables are turned.
hope to see you in that happy hunting ground in the sky someday.
Atheistic Existentialism is only to the death.
To “Reader” and all those who believe “Religion is the uneducated man’s way to explain what he does not understand.”
A common bit of modern hagiographic folkore, the exact circumstances of which I have been unable to trace, reports that on one day about a hundred years ago, a young brash scientist on his way to a conference shared a train compartment with a quiet old man who looked to be an example of that type once so common in France, that of the wealthy peasant. He noticed the old gentleman was telling the beads of a rosary, and proceeded to hector him, asking him why he bothered with such outdated things in an age of scientific progress.
The old man asked, “What is this science? Perhaps you can explain it to me.” He was clearly moved, and had tears in his eyes. The young student, slightly embarassed by the reaction he’d brought about, said he would send him some pamphlets to explain the subject to him, if he’d just give him his address. The old man’s stop had come up, and he was about to step out. The old man rummaged around in his coat and pulled out a business card, and just as he left the compartment, the young man realized it read, “Louis Pasteur, Director of the Institute of Scientific Research, Paris.”
Whether or not this story is true–and it certainly could be, given Louis Pasteur’s very genuine faith–it’s a matter of historic record that the great man died with a rosary in his hand, after having had the life of St. Vincent de Paul read aloud to him. The saint was one of his heroes, and an inspiration for his own scientific work, that it might benefit the lives of children as the saint’s own charity had.
Therefore, I assume “Reader” considers Doctor Pasteur, and all Christians with a Bachelor’s Degree or higher, as uneducated.
Most religious people are uneducated in science. If a scientist understands how the brain works, including the process of self-awareness, then he should realize that faith in some invisible being in the sky is purely an illusion.
I have faith. In my morals, in humanity, in the laws of nature. I also realize that when I die my brain cells will stop working and my “soul” will be no more.
Reader, I have a 1st Class Honors in Engineering and a Bachelor of Science. I’m also religious.
You’re a tool.
Do you understand evolution? Do you understand the evolutionary reasons behind emotion? Do you know what “love” really is? When you have all the information, you will make up your own mind and see.
But in reality, things do seem much nicer if you can have faith in god and believe that love is just a magical thing, that death is only temporary, etc.
Ignorance is bliss.
Yes I do understand those things, Reader. In fact, I find natural history and human psychology very interesting. If you read Genesis, you might notice evolution of the world being described to simple minded people with eras referred to as days.
Things in your world must be very dark, gloomy and restrictive.
The genesis was written by men who knew little about the world in a time people believed the gods affected their daily lives.
Reader, you can’t argue with someone that believes. Blind faith means that anything can attributed to god without question, doesn’t matter how daft, contradictory or even down right evil.
Jonco… Jesus still loves you!
……when a debate/discussion comes down to name calling, what is it?
Faith is essentially our world view, people defend their worldview regardless of what they believe happens at the point of death. To be proven wrong, on either side, would mean that one has lived a lie. Though coping with living a lie may not be too bad…does anyone really want to live it? Once truth has been found, to the best of one’s ability, that truth should be proven both by trying to prove it correct (And in so looking for the best arguments for) and also trying to prove it incorrect (thus finding the best arguments against). If arguments for the said faith are found to be true and the arguments against are found to be false…then it must be assumed to be true. This is true vice versa as well. Also, when trying to prove either way you must try to put your presuppositions aside. You cannot start assuming you are right and then making everything fit into that view, on the flipside you cannot view something as wrong and therefore make everything fit into that belief. It is very difficult to have such an objective research. To get down to it…you also must use historical FACTS (Not theories) and you need to use the scientific method. (The whole method, not just what you wish of it) When you get down to it, one way or another, you will not have an absolute, solid, definitive, no qualms, no questions answer for any choice….so the one that seems to have the most TRUTH and FACTS behind it should be the one chosen and then upon that choice your faith, in what you chose, will cause you to believe the other parts that have not been proven or disproven yet. Of course, then you just may choose whatever is most comfortable/easiest and say screw all that because I do what I want. LOL
Whew…I felt like Will Ferrel from Old School. Remember when he had to answer the debate question against the guy from Crossfire and he went into a small trance? LOL
Dan,
Thanks!
So you believe in evolution and science. In all the time that mankind has been on this earth and for as long as monkey, chimps and apes have been in captivity for men to watch. Has anyone every seen one ever evolve into anything that was not what his parents were? As much as people have interacted with them have they been able to actually teach them to carry on a conversation, to think? If we evolved into a different species should not have something else evolved since then with all the changes to the world? When they find a primitive tribe in Africa or South America have we ever found any in a stage between what we supposedly were and now are today?
They use carbon dating to say something is 5 million years old, I say prove it.
Oh…my…god…
You don’t have a clue about what evolution teaches, so just leave it.
By the way, who do you vote for? Republicans? Do you think they would approve the following message:
Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
-Jesus
Matthew – 19: 23-24