17 thoughts on “How many rolls of toilet paper do you have?

  1. Your family is fun to shoot, rtkane? Aside from your awkward wording, you do realize that the Texas woman who just shot her two daughters to death said the same thing, right — that guns were for protecting her family?

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  2. “We need to be ready.” Ready for what? For the credits to roll (Aurora)? Recess (Sandy Hook)? Study Hall (Columbine)? Graduate school (Virginia Tech)? Last call (Orlando)? A Christmas party (San Bernardino)? Women seeking STI screening (Colorado Planned Parenthood)? Black people attending church (Charleston)?

    The list goes on, and so does the death count. Funny, we haven’t overthrown any governments yet, at least not in this country.

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  3. Lil andy really is a special kind of stupid, he can’t help himself it’s genectics and a legacy thing. I wonder if Lil andy will give up his State Police protection and just rely on a 911 call if he needs it.

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  4. The “self protection” crowd will be all over this post. What they don’t want to realize is that there is a much higher probability of those guns shooting one of their own than there is of them shooting an intruder or robber. So go ahead and keep that Darwinism alive and kicking! Because heaven forbid you lose your toys!

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    • Trotting out this tired argument I see. Show me any study which shows a higher rate of having a gun used against you than the amount of self-defense use of a firearm (which includes the mere presence of a firearm that deters a crime). Defensive gun use outweighs gun murders, suicides, and accidental shootings combined.

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      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States#Self-protection

        “Between 1987 and 1990, McDowall et al. found that guns were used in defense during a crime incident 64,615 times annually (258,460 times total over the whole period).”

        and

        “During this same period, 1987 to 1990, there were 46,319 gun homicides, and the National Crime Victimization Survey estimated that 2,628,532 nonfatal crimes involving guns occurred.”

        Self-defense: 258,460
        Crimes involving guns: 2,628,532

        That’s quite a spread and would require some heavy allowances on both sides (e.g. the victim showing a gun but claiming not to use it, or crimes that involved guns but had no human victims) for the self-defense figure to be higher.

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        • And a $10MM study commissioned by Obama from the CDC shows the opposite.

          http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent

          “Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies,”

          “almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.”

          I don’t think we’re going to agree–I come here for the funny stuff, not to get into a debate, so you can post additional stuff if you’d like but I’m not going to respond, not because I don’t care about the topic, but because I just don’t care to debate it here on a website that’s supposed to be a break in my day from all of the serious stuff going on. We can each pull studies that support our sides, I’m sure.

          I appreciate the fact that you took the time to post some informative links, though.

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      • inb4…

        http://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6936&context=jclc

        Survey Research and Self-Defense Gun Use: An Explanation of Extreme Overestimates

        “Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz conducted a survey of civilian defensive gun use in 1992. In 1993, Kleck began publicizing the estimate that civilians use guns in self-defense against offenders up to 2.5 million times each year. This figure has been widely used by the National Rifle Association and by gun advocates. It is also often cited in the media and even in Congress. The Kleck and Gertz (K-G) paper has now been published. It is clear, however, that its conclusions cannot be accepted as valid.”

        “In 1992, Kleck and Gertz conducted a national random-digit-dial survey of five thousand dwelling units, asking detailed questions about self-defense gun use. … But the survey is randomized by dwelling unit rather than by individual, so the findings cannot simply be extrapolated to the national population. … K-G oversampled males and individuals from the South and West.”

        “Given the K-G survey results … the K-G figure would be a seventeen-fold overestimate. … Note, however, that the 66 individuals in their survey who report a self-defensive gun use in the past year have not been chosen randomly – these 66 are the 1.3% whose screen result (i.e., their survey response) has attracted our attention.”

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    • It doesn’t matter. They don’t want to understand. And the worst type of blind person is the one who does not want to see. So let them continue to kill their kids, themselves, and let their children kill each other in accidents inside the home. Because natural selection cleanses the gene pool, and gets rid of these NRA drones that won’t let this country move into the 21st century.

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  5. If you think the internet doesn’t make up a lot of stuff for Sam to say in memes that he never actually would in real life, then…

    [img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/85/ac/34/85ac347182bcc7ebf9ac1e940d6094b1.jpg[/img]

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  6. OK antigunners, if you wish to give up your constitutional rights, fine. But don’t think that because of your beliefs I will give up my constitutional rights. Not going to happen.

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  7. I’m just wondering what kind of a situation you expect to find yourself in which you’ll need more than 6 – 12 bullets?

    Seriously, where do you live that a gun full of bullets is insufficient to protect you and your family?

    I’m really asking. This isn’t hypothetical.

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