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Hearing (and seeing) his live performances (from the past 20 years or so…) really make me appreciate Wings even more. He hasn’t really written anything really good in about as many years.
C’mon Paul. I think Denny Laine is available. Give him a call, will ya?
As much of a Beatles (and Wings) fan as I am, I think it’s high time Sir Paul just retired. He’s gotten so damn smug and his voice is shot. And as eyeball correctly stated, he hasn’t written anything decent in a few decades.
Doubtful the previous posters have listened seriously to any of Paul’s records the past 15 years or so.
Or have actually seen Paul live recently.
And/or (likely too) they simply have very narrow interests. Their attention spans probably too short to listen to full albums.
Claiming to be a fan, to justify such negative remarks, is not the same as being a fan.
And the comments indicate these smug dudes are likely not.
Wonder about their interests…who do they think is better?
You can be a “fan” of someone, but still be critical of their work…instead of being a mindless devotee of someone’s work, thinking it’s all incredible and beyond criticism. I’ve listened to some of Paul’s recent albums (and I’ve liked a few tracks, but nothing really blew my socks off). As for “claiming to be a fan”…I’ve got thousands of hours’ worth of Beatles’ (and solo, ex-Beatle) recordings (well beyond what’s commercially available) so I think I could say that I AM a fan. But, unlike some people, I don’t have the Beatle’s pillow cases, posters on my wall or even a bumper sticker. It’s possible to be a fan, but still be able to think “gee…Paul’s voice just isn’t hitting those notes anymore…why’s he bothering doing that song?” That’s being realistic. If his newer recordings are so wonderful, as you imply, why is the largest portion of his live shows devoted to his older songs? At least, when he was with Wings, he only did a small handful of Beatles’ songs. This is reality – he knows that most of his newer stuff doesn’t compare with what he did back when he had a better voice. If HE knows it, what’s wrong with me saying just about the same thing?
As for who do I think is better? I don’t think that’s an issue, really. Although I’ve got tons of Beatles’ music, I don’t listen to it during every waking hour…I’ve got different tastes. I might spend some time listening to them, or their solo work, but I move on. I listen to everything. It’s quite possible to be a “fan” without being a “fanatic”. It’s ok to like one thing and be critical about another. Although I consider myself a “fan”, I did give away all of my original Beatles’ (and solo) records a few years ago. That’s right – gave them away. That doesn’t mean I’m not a “fan” does it? Will I have to give up my Beatles’ wig and Beatle boots?
Oh – and I’ve NEVER ever wanted to go to Liverpool, either. And that would have been a quick ferry ride across the Irish Sea. Never considered it. So there.
Well said, eyeball. I, like you, actually have bought several of Paul’s solo efforts in the last few decades. Nothing special on any of them. I am a HUGE Rush fan, but I can still be critical of their work. It just sounds like nowhereman is a solid kool-aid drinker with no sense of independent thought. Paul has been one of the most successful and prolific songwriter to ever live, but when the well is dry, it’s just dry.
Ouch! Well, as expected, stabbing an eyeball sure gets a reaction.
Jumping all over. Scrambling to answer with multiple kitchen sink arguments.
A good fan once but now independent and dispassionate enough to give old records away. How generous….or maybe just don’t have a turntable.
There’s no romance, devotion or clinging to those ways. Moving forward.
Of course disdain for anyone who might be holding on. They must be ‘mindless’ to care. Staring at old pictures on their wall living in some past.
Sir Paul is still a great entertainer. Who sounded better at Sandy? Who (no pun) was more energetic? Who were you excited about. Or was it just too many old Englishmen?
No opinion about this event?
Retire? Who gets to decide that? If you’re embarrassed to listen just get out of the way.
Plenty to take your place.
Unwilling to provide any modern music choices? Someone that should be listened to?
Surprising…no.
Can’t even offer up someone you like/prefer today? Put them (your support) up to some challenge?
Perhaps these artists are too obscure/unknown now? Just breaking through.
Not yet discovered by the masses. Those whose records may be given away sometime later.
Don’t care much for Paul’s more recent works?
How about reaching into the actual catalogs of some favored artists?
Offer up maybe 20 tracks of their best works from the past 10-15 years. Assuming they haven’t just sprung forth the past fortnight.
Let’s compare these to the Sir’s material for ingenuity, musicality, whatever spins your wheels.
Independent thought?
Just see the usual nonfanboys trying to show off their cooler than thou bona fides.
Ah well fellas, do a few high fives and congratulate yourselves.
I didn’t know it was supposed to be a debate, nowhereman. Jeez – getting your panties in a twist (over such a silly thing) aren’t you?
No…I didn’t bother watching the Sandy benefit concert…I was at work. Since I didn’t watch it, there’s no opinion to offer.
Yes, I have a turntable (a very nice one, too) which is within arm’s reach right now. What’s your point? So I gave away my records…someone like you might not understand it, but I’ve heard the songs plenty of times – I decided to pass them on to someone who might appreciate them. Last I heard, the person I gave the records to was going to mount some of them (the more hard-to-find ones) into wall decorations. That’s fine. Whatever they want to do. How is it dispassionate to give away records that I had put away in my closet?
Why should I have to offer my opinion of modern music choices? I’ve already said that I like different kinds of music. That’s not good enough? As I said before, I wasn’t aware that this was a debate. I wrote my opinion of the latter part of Paul’s career (studio and on stage), and I stand by it.
If you wish to discuss the merits of every single track The Beatles released, you’re bound to have some that aren’t “as good” as other ones. But you’re a Beatles fan…how can you have a “least favorite” track, or “least favorite” album? Personally, I’d rather listen to the Beatles’ “White Album” than “Sgt Pepper”, based on the variety of musical styles on that album. And I can even appreciate “Revolution 9″ for what it is.
You need to calm down nowhereman, and understand that a fan could still be critical of a person’s work, and it’s alright. The artists expect that. I’m sure even Paul expects it, too.
I wasn’t suggesting discussing any Beatle material.
Rather Paul’s recent material vs anyone who might tickle your fancy.
The link above is Paul’s 39 minutes at Sandy. I guess too busy to check out. Even just a bit
But you have time to put Paul down for being…what 70?
I might have ‘rallied around’ The Who if you’d said Roger should keep his shirt on or Kenye for wearing a leather skirt (ahh, not really).
Their Sandy performances easy to find.
But maybe you like other old guys?
Who might be still singing ‘as well as ever’ like Bob Dylan or Neil Young.
More cred too, I guess.
Or perhaps you’re now into someone fresh on the scene whose material impresses.
Can’t say/admit to anyone you like?
It just seems that put downs are too easy. If you don’t have something positive to say (about someone/anyone/anything) who cares what some eyeball thinks.
Got noth’n, goin’ nowhere man?
And the Area 51 guy…just get on whatever bandwagon. That’s your method of belonging.
Area 51 guy…that’s cute, I like that. Otherwise, someone needs to unpack about half of WTF you’re ranting about. (someone forgot to take his meds) I had an opinion as did eyeball. Deal with it. As for jumping on bandwagons…whatever to you, my friend…is there no room in your tiny world for the opinion of others?. I personally, without anyone telling me to, think that Paul is ridiculously full of himself and his voice is telling on his fake hair color. I really don’t understand this diatribe about people having opinions that differ from yours. I think that Paul was once a very gifted singer/composer/songwriter and now he’s just a worn-out old icon whose time has come and gone…in my opinion. You act like you’ve got money invested in him.
I stand by what I feel are the facts about Paul’s music lately – he puts out whatever he likes (which is his right, of course), but in front of paying fans, he plays what he thinks they’d like to hear, which is of course, the older material. The fans get misty-eyed nostalgic over it and don’t care that his voice is well past it’s peak. If you can’t “wow them” with the latest, bring out the greatest. But when I saw Paul in ’91 or ’92, he didn’t rely as much on the “oldies” as he does now. THAT ALONE says a lot. It isn’t a put down (and besides…it wasn’t directed at YOU, was it? So why get so defensive about it?), it’s just an observation/opinion…backed up by looking at the songs on a recent concert set list:
November 14, 2012 Houston,TX set list
Magical Mystery Tour (1967)
Junior’s Farm (1974)
All My Loving (1963)
Jet (1973)
Got to Get You into My Life (1966)
Sing the Changes (2008)
The Night Before (1965)
Let Me Roll It (1973)
Paperback Writer (1966)
The Long and Winding Road (1969)
Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five (1973)
My Valentine (2012)
Maybe I’m Amazed (1970)
I’m Looking Through You (1965)
And I Love Her (1964)
Blackbird (1968)
Here Today (1981)
Dance Tonight (2007)
Mrs. Vandebilt (1973)
Eleanor Rigby (1966)
Something (1969)
Band on the Run (1973)
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da (1968)
Back in the U.S.S.R. (1968)
I’ve Got a Feeling (1969)
A Day in the Life/Give Peace A Chance
(1967/1969)
Let It Be (1969)
Live and Let Die (1973)
Hey Jude (1968)
Encore:
Lady Madonna (1968)
Day Tripper (1965)
Get Back (1969)
Encore 2:
Yesterday (1965)
Helter Skelter (1968)
GoldenSlumbers/CarryThatWeight/
The End (1969)
Out of all these songs, 23 (I counted the last 3 songs of the 2nd encore as one song, ok?) are Beatles’ songs (so that’s pre-1970); 1 Plastic Ono Band song (1969); 7 by Wings (specifically, from 1973/74); 5 “solo” songs, with only 3 released in the past decade. That’s a really lop-sided setlist – again, verifying to ME (as I can only speak for myself) that it looks like Paul is relying heavily on the nostalgia of the fans to get him (and them!) thru a concert. Nobody would pay what he’s getting for a ticket to hear songs like “Nod Your Head” or “Jenny Wren”.
As for what I like or listen to now…it’s not important in the context of my original post – Paul hasn’t written anything really good in well over 20 years or so. His set list backs that up. At least, with Denny Laine, he wrote “Mull of Kintyre”! That’s what I’m talking about in my original post. I don’t understand why you get all bent out of shape about it but you really should lighten up a little bit. Jeez.
Area guy says,
….a worn-out old icon whose time has come and gone…in my opinion.
Yes….your opinion.
That’s why any musician in the universe, young or old and having enough self-confidence, would die to spend time playing with Paul.
Go on, tell me that isn’t the truth!
eye guy makes,
Such a great effort, using a set list, to prove Paul “hasn’t really written anything really really good in well over 20 years or so”.
But that dog won’t hunt.
Paul’s problem…he needs about an 8 hr concert.
If he announced he’d do an entirely different set he might loose some current concert goers but they would be replaced by countless others who would pay whatever the going rate was.
I’m sure you guyees need the last word so, I had a good time, take your shot.