A Football Question

Last year…..after the Packers / Bills game, Buffalo released quarterback Trent Edwards.
During the Packers / Eagles game, the Packers injured Philadelphia quarterback Kevin Kolb. Philadelphia then had to play backup quarterback Michael Vick.
During a playoff game against the Eagles, the Packers injured Michael Vick and another backup was needed.
After the Packers / Cowboys game, Dallas fired Wade Phillips and most of his staff.
After the Packers / Vikings game, Minnesota fired Brad Childress and most of his staff.
Four weeks after losing to the Packers, the 49er’s coach Mike Singletary and most of his staff were fired and replaced.
During the Bears Playoff game, the Packers injured Jay Cutler and backup Todd Collins forcing the Bears to go with 3rd string quarterback Caleb Hanie.
So here’s the question……
Is it just me, or did the Packers create more jobs last year than Obama?

Thanks Gene



29 thoughts on “A Football Question

    • I’m not even playing in the game Rev. I’m just sittin’ here on the bench minding my own business…. when BAM….


  1. Well, let’s take it line by line.

    (Note: after some (very) quick research, I found that 18 is a reasonable expectation for the “coaching staff” of an NFL Franchise)

    1) Bills release Trent Edwards (-1)
    2) Eagles sub Vick for Kolb (no net gain; both players were already employed by the Eagles and neither lost their job)
    3) Dallas fires its coaching staff (-1; -18 for the fired staff and +17 for replacements (it’s not 1:1 because new head coach Jason Garrett was already on the staff and was retained))
    4) Vikings fires their coaching staff (no net gain; 18 fired, 18 replaced)
    5) Niners fires their coaching staff (no net gain; 18 fired, 18 replaced)
    6) Bears sub Collins for Cutler and Hanie for Collins (no net gain; all players were employed by the Bears and none lost their job)

    Total: -2

    So, as long as Obama personally fired fewer than 2 people (and by that I mean from his personal, non-gonvernmental payroll (e.g. a babysitter or a housekeeper for his personal residence in Chicago) since those are the only types of jobs that a president has any actual control over) then Obama comes out ahead.

    If, however, you want to count the jobs created by the economy as a whole and assign credit to the sitting president we can do that, too.

    Total number of people employed by the NFL and its franchises:

    2,350 – Players and Coaches on the 32 NFL teams
    640 – Front Office staff for the 32 NFL teams
    1,600 – Practice squad, administrative, facilities and medical personnel for the 32 NFL teams
    150 – Employees of the NFL itself and the NFLPA
    150 – NFL officials
    100,000 – Employees of the 32 NFL venues (assumes 3,125 per stadium)*

    *Some of these numbers are pure conjecture, but seem reasonable to me. Some of these people are not employed directly be the NFL, I know, but it seemed reasonable to include them. I didn’t go to far down that rabbit hole, though, because pretty soon you’re counting the customer service people at DirecTV as tangentially connected to the NFL and that’s just silly. So, with a big grain of salt, let’s continue.

    Total – 105,000 (rounded up)

    In 2011, by most estimates, the economy added about 1.6 million jobs. That varies depending upon whom you ask, but 1.6 is the number I find most often.

    So, in summation, -2 to the Eagles vs. 1,600,000 for “Obama” (here meaning the economy as a whole) in 2011. So, if the Eagles had themselves hired enough people to wholly reconstitute the NFL ten times over, it would have been close. But they didn’t.

    Result: “Obama” by a slim margin of 1,600,002.

    But maybe this post was intended to be a joke.


  2. My cat created more jobs than Obama. Having said that, revrick is right, you can’t win no matter how apolitical you are, Jonco. There’s always at least one.


  3. How do players and coaches being fired and replaced add jobs? Seems the number of employed stays the same. The guy who wrote this doesn’t seem to understand what job creation is.


    • You know grumps, if you paid as much attention to Canadian politics as you do to American politics (where you have absolutely no say) maybe you could help Canada become a playa!

      I’m sorry Bella, in my mind YOU represent Canada, you are a great Canuckian!!!


      • I have no say, you say.

        I HAVE an opinion, and what happens in the USA (or China, or Europe, etc) affects everyone, one way or another.

        Let’s see: Canada was in WW 1 and WW 2 WAY before US. We backed you in Korea, Afghanistan, Balkans and Iran. Sorry not Iraq, we knew better. We pick wisely when we wanna be a playa!

        As an aside, I was born in Colorado.


        • Well, I didn’t know that (that you were from Colorado). The other stuff, Canada has always been a strong ally and we appreciate that.

          And I like your Ginger Ale.


        • I should have said “have no vote”. I have an opinion about China, Iran, Europe, but I don’t waste my time agitating Chinese, Iranian, or European governments or citizens, because I have no vote there. I will agitate, grouse and second guess my own leaders if I am unhappy or dissatisfied.

          I also should say I meant no disrespect toward Canada. I have always admired Canada and Canadians as a whole.

          Just curious, did you retain your U.S citizenship?


          • Sorry if you think my comments are “agitating”. I guess you should talk to Jonco about what is allowed here.

            If you wanna dis Canada, go right ahead. I’ll agree or disagree with what you say, and give valid reasons why, but I won’t get snarky about an observation from a “foreigner”.

            I think I can still get full US citizenship (dual), but not really interested.


  4. Ya know, I’ve been coming here for about 4-5 years and it seems the clientele has really gone downhill. There were probably 15-20 core commenters in the past and generally, folks added something to the conversation. Even if folks disagreed, it was polite discourse. Seems like it has changed significantly. Used to be, there would be a lot of comments like WIHI (Would Infidel Hit It? for the newbies). Now, it seems the latest are a WOF (Waste of Flesh).


    • Rev.
      I been coming here twice as long as you and I believe “But maybe this post was intended to be a joke” is the most funniest/stupidest comment so far.


      • It’s got to be in the top 5 along with “Did he died?” And thinking about it, I’m pretty sure I’ve been here closer to 7 years, but it sure doesn’t seem that long. But, I think back to where I was working when I found this place and it was probably 2005. Time accelerates.


        • You do realize, of course, that everyone who wanders in here is an assmunch except for you and I and I’m starting to wonder about you…


  5. Good lawd Gary, when I yapped earlier on FB about politics, I didn’t know that this had taken place. Well, we each stand on our own feet and have no one to face but the person in the mirror. I know nothing about sports. Nothing! (I think that this is where it all started, with a sports joke)
    Thank You for one of the best compliments that I have ever had in my life. You don’t have to say you’re sorry…to me. Hugs.


    • Yankee appeaser! 🙁


      PS Yankees suck, I used to like them in the Maris, Mantle, Berra days. Now the “buy a team” mentality is crap.


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